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Dave's Newberry Build « Thread Started on Aug 26, 2008, 2:13pm »
Having made a standard Police Box, followed by a red Mile End box, I thought I'd go for a BBC prop next. Loosely based on the Newberry box, this one's going to have a very shallow (almost flat) roof.
I've made it slightly bigger so it's in scale with my lad's old model Dalek (which can be seen here, keeping an eye on progress so far).
Re: Dave's Newberry Build « Reply #1 on Aug 26, 2008, 5:04pm »
An excellent start there to your latest model, but wearing my Admin hat - guess what I'm going to say next...
Please could you either thumbnail the image or resize it? Just so that it doesn't throw the board out of whack. Also, some folk are still on good ol' dial up and this image while take an age to load for them.
"My lad's dalek"? Whom are you trying to kid? Lovely modelcraft as always Dave KB
Sussed! No, believe it or not it actually is Andrew's. (However we have two 5" Radio Controlled ones, and they're mine all mine!!)
Have just finished the signs. I'm not looking forward to painting it, as the material I've used is 2mm thick mounting card (from an art shop), and since I'm planning on using a matt acrylic blue, I'm concerned that the card may be too absorbant and start warping (and not in a futuristic space-travel kind of way).
Maybe I need to "seal" it with some kind of undercoat or varnish first...
Shame I can't go into business doing these, because I've already had two requests from friends.
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Re: Dave's Newberry Build « Reply #5 on Aug 27, 2008, 5:56pm »
In my (very limited) experience, if you paint on a coat of varnish, undercoat or sealer, the card (or wood) will just absorb that the same as it would paint. The only difference is that it will THEN leave a nice surface to paint on and give you a nice finish after that. But I don't think you can really stop the material absorbing the first thing you put on it. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Re: Dave's Newberry Build « Reply #6 on Aug 27, 2008, 8:17pm »
If you spray on some primer in several light coats (instead of one heavy coat), it should create a surface which would prevent your paint from soaking into the paper card. I find the real trick is to not spray too much at once. Many times I've sprayed a little and thought "oh, I can spray more without causing any problems" and then sprayed too much - instead of waiting for the first coat to dry and then spray more.
Wow! That looks great. Nice colour too! Cheers, Jon~
Thanks! Tamiya Acrylic "Flat Blue XF-8". To my eyes the perfect colour for a shabby Pertwee-era box.
Am I the only person who thinks of the Troughton era as having a grey TARDIS? Even though I know that's because it was B&W, I still imagine the box would be grey in real life.
Matt Varnished & the door-handle put on (once more a piece of bent aerial coax). Although I used a set of "Newbery box" plans, I think I've diverged a little bit, but then I think it's always best to be satisfied rather than strictly accurate, and I'm very satisfied with this!
If I had a full-sized one...
The natural outside light shows the paint colour as it more or less is. I think Tamiya ought to rename this "TARDIS Blue"
If you look closely you should be able to see that there is a sort of "pebbly" texture to the windows. I used a slice of textured PVC from a children's plastic stationery wallet. 59p from Wilkos.
The shallow-pitched roof was the most difficult part of the whole build. Once more the lamp is part of a transparent fibre-tip pen lid, the struts are cotton-buds, and the dome is a plastic screw cover.
And so you should be, it's a neat build and looks great next to that Dalek.
If I would make one suggestion, it would be this; for obvious joins, have you considered using a filler? Even on cardboard, car body filler works a treat, as does Polyfiller... the latter is terribly easy to sand smooth and if you apply it while it's not too wet, it won't adversely affect the building materials.
Still, I like the model (and your others too) - now all we need is a shot of them all lined up together.
And so you should be, it's a neat build and looks great next to that Dalek.
If I would make one suggestion, it would be this; for obvious joins, have you considered using a filler? Even on cardboard, car body filler works a treat, as does Polyfiller... the latter is terribly easy to sand smooth and if you apply it while it's not too wet, it won't adversely affect the building materials.
Still, I like the model (and your others too) - now all we need is a shot of them all lined up together.
Thankyou for your kind comments. OK here's the set so far...and yes the first two are slightly smaller scale.
Next time I'll try Polyfiller. Next time? Well if I can find some spare shelving space in the house there might be a next build...I guess all that's left is a new series model. May have to leave it a few months though, the wife's starting to give me funny looks...
Thanks for taking the time to take a snap of them all together there - they look rather splendid actually.
As for your wife giving you funny looks, mine doesn't bother any more - she's used to my hair brained schemes of building weird and "wonderful" objet d'art.
That's a double order, because you would have to do TYJ mark one and two!
As for the NST, there is a whole fleet of those to replicate!
I don't know about you but I find the NST a bit bland. It just doesn't say TARDIS to me. Personally I've liked all of them up to and including the TVM version (which unfortunately you didn't see much of). Also unless I made it a bit bigger still, I'd have problems with the NST window frames, they're so damn thin.
The one I've just made is currently my favourite though, because it speaks to me of my Who-watching childhood (I'm a Pertwee kind of guy).
As for the NST, there have been some marvelous replicas but its absolutely my least favourite design... (Thats me trying to be delicate btw )
-Marc
I agree, Marc. Not to knock the build quality of the NST replicas that have been built here, and I know it's all personal choice at the end of the day, but I do find it a bit flat and featureless, like a Tardis-Lite (despite it's massive size). Although I do think the NST has its moments (when it's nicely lit and shot) I prefer all the extra details you can find on most of the other Tardises; like steps above the door and quarter-round post beading and a lamp that's not from B&Q! ( and rectangular panels that haven't been 'bevelled' with a router! )
But you know what? That's what makes Tardis building so unique. Everyone has a different favourite and point of view. We all have our favourite bits that we like, and bits we don't.
Personally, I always loved the Newbery box [didn't know that's what it was until recently] because that's the one I saw most on TV - and then you learn some afficianados say it's the least accurate box. In my eyes that's not true - by that point it's the Tardis, and not a faithful Police Box.
Variety is the spice of life I guess. I built my box from eye, and using the materials available. It may not be the most accurate Tardis in the world, but I love it.
Wouldn't this be a dull board if every Tardis during the series had been exactly the same?
I don't think anyone should apologise for having a favourite or least favourite.
"My pilot's license? That's out back in the Cessna. Or perhaps you're referring to my license to kill. Revoked. Trouble at the Kazakhstan border. I could give you the details but then I'd have to kill you, which I can't do because my license to kill has been revoked."
and then you learn some afficianados say it's the least accurate box. In my eyes that's not true - by that point it's the Tardis, and not a faithful Police Box.
This is always what I've said. The TARDIS is not an exact replica of a Police Box, it's an alien intepretation of one and one that seems to shift a little over time.
The Newbery Box, while perhaps the least Police Boxy of them all (not counting the NST) is still the TARDIS and is at the top of my favourite list - in its Logopolis guise.
But you know what? That's what makes Tardis building so unique. Everyone has a different favourite and point of view. We all have our favourite bits that we like, and bits we don't.
Personally, I always loved the Newbery box [didn't know that's what it was until recently] because that's the one I saw most on TV - and then you learn some afficianados say it's the least accurate box. In my eyes that's not true - by that point it's the Tardis, and not a faithful Police Box.
Variety is the spice of life I guess. I built my box from eye, and using the materials available. It may not be the most accurate Tardis in the world, but I love it.
Wouldn't this be a dull board if every Tardis during the series had been exactly the same?
I don't think anyone should apologise for having a favourite or least favourite.
Yup, and there'd only ever be one set of plans that everyone used, and the Flight Control Tardis would look identical to models made in the 1960s!
What I think is marvellous about everyone having a favourite Tardis, is that it mirrors perfectly everyone having a favourite Doctor. And of course your favourite Doctor (and therefore his corresponding Tardis) is generally the one you first watched when you were very small. Luckily this forum doesn't get as vehement as *cough* others do. Imagine the threads - "Brachaki - Worst. Tardis. Ever!!!"
In fact building a replica of your Tardis is not only a true labour of love, but it reaches deep into your own personal childhood. I have two "favourite" Tardis designs, and they both have strong resonance with my childhood.
The first (original) design of the Police Box takes me back to the London of the late 60s, when I was first watching Dr Who and saw a proper box every week at the bottom of our road. However by the 70s I had moved to Essex, so Pertwee's box probably helped assuage homesickness for London.
Bit more cod-psych than I'd intended , but you get my drift!
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