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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #150 on Nov 16, 2006, 6:08am »
Today I didn't make it into the basement, but I still have something new to show.
I decided a while back that what I really wanted to do with the floor of my box was to have some sort of grating, so that any water that got inside the box wouldn't sit on the floor but just go into the dirt underneath the box. I had no idea where I was going to get grating and worried that it might be prohibitively expensive and so was not expecting what I found today.
The local Habitat for Humanity ReStore (which sells used building supplies) had a bunch of these heavy duty plastic floor grates (approx 1¾" / 45mm thick) and I bought 8 of them for a total of CND$16 (approx. £7.50)! I love that store.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #151 on Nov 19, 2006, 12:49am »
Today I finally got around to cutting the edges off the top pieces of the signs so now we can see what this piece is supposed to look like: One of the pieces has quite a twist in it, which annoys me greatly. I don't really want to cut a new piece, so maybe I'll see if I can screw it down to pull the twist out... I've gotta think about this.
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I'm interested in seeing more pics of how it all fits together.
I aim to please. Here are some pictures of one of the corners which should hopefully make things clearer:
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #153 on Nov 19, 2006, 4:52pm »
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Can I ask – is the ring beam structural, does it actually support the roof? If so, will the corners joints be enough?
I’m also interested in how you’ve planned to hold the signs in place.
The ring beam will sit on top of the corner posts holding them in the proper place, and the roof will sit on top of the ring beam. There's an awful lot of wood at the corners and besides all the glue I used, there's also a bucket load of nails and screws and a handful of wooden pegs that you can't really see in the pictures. I think (hope) this should be enough.
As for holding in the signs, my plan is to put the signs in from the front, and then attach a frame inside the opening so that I wind up with something like this: (no idea where I stole this picture from)
I've decided what to do with that twisted board. I'm going to stick it in the bathtub full of water for a few hours, and then clamp it to a beam - pulling it straight, and then leaving it to dry for a while and hope that it remains straight when I pull the clamps off.
Yes TimeGirl, it does feel good to get back to the build.
TO DO: Final weathering paint job, fit lights and sounds.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #154 on Nov 19, 2006, 7:26pm »
Thanks for those extra photo's Colin, it's amazing work - the way it all seems to lock together. The sloping signbox top should work very well in the rain..! Good luck straightening that wood out, sounds like a plausible method to me - let us know if it works, could be handy to know for the rest of us if our Tardises somehow develop an unwanted warp factor.. Ah canna change the laws o' physics! Well..maybe I can - given a bathtub and some clamps! ;-)
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #155 on Nov 19, 2006, 11:07pm »
So after I had a shower this morning, my board had a bath (weighted down by two buckets full of stuff).
After about six hours, I took them downstairs to clamp to a beam I had lying around.
Since the beam is made from three 2x10s, I thought that there was no chance my warped piece of wood would affect it. I added a fan to help everything dry faster.
Hopefully when I unclamp it on Tuesday or Wednesday, it'll be straighter than it was. I know it's possible to straighten wood this way as my dad has done this before, but the piece he straightened was soaked for over a week, and then he clamped it for several weeks after that. I just don't want to wait that long and am hoping that I don't need to go to that extreme.
Of course a faster method would be to do steam bending, but I didn't want to build a steam box for just this one board.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #156 on Nov 27, 2006, 12:02am »
I have just been so busy this week (and lazy when I haven't been busy), so haven't done much building. I eventually unclamped my board on Saturday and found that while there was still a little twist, it was quite a bit straighter than it was. I decided that what I should do is just screw all the boards in place on the sign boxes and leave them until I want to epoxy/fiberglass them (probably in spring). Hopefully time will heal all twists. (can you guess which of these boards is the twisted one?)
Since I'm pretty much done with the sign boxes for the time being, I went out today and bought lumber for my posts. I don't know why it's the case, but this year seems to have the worst lumber that I've ever seen. I had to go through around 10 warped or twisted boards for every one that was acceptable (only had a little warp/twist). I was planning on working on the posts today, but after buying the lumber I just feel wiped out.
The other thing I've been doing in relation to my build is bidding on vacuum pumps on eBay so that I'll be able to degass the urethane resin when I cast my windows. Unfortunately, good vacuum pumps generelly go for a lot more than I'd like to spend, so I've got to look for auctions where people don't really know what they're selling (so they're poorly listed and people don't notice them). Last week I found the perfect pump (pulls 29" Hg), I had planned to bid at the last moment so I could hopefully get it without giving anyone the chance to bid again... but when the time came, I forgot to bid and it went for $26 (properly listed, it'd probably go for $150-$200)... aargh! I'm currently bidding on a 26" Hg pump that no one seems to have noticed so it's still at a stupidly cheap price - hopefully no one notices it in the next two days.
Here's an explaination of "Hg as I understand it. Vacuum pumps (in North America at least), indicate how many inches of Mercury (ie. "Hg) they can pull. At sea level the air pressure is quite close to 30" Hg, so if a pump could pull 30" Hg, you would have a complete vacuum. To pull that much is exceedingly difficult and very expensive.
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Snow outside? Can we see a picture?
I can hardly believe it, but today was the first time it snowed this month (well, that stuck around for more than a few hours). We often have the snowfalls in October sticking around until spring. Anyway, here you go. (what else was I going to take a picture of?)
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #157 on Nov 27, 2006, 2:17am »
Colin,
I hear you about the timber issue. I had one hell of a time trying to find straight pieces of timber for my hinge stiles. After going through half of the stock bin, I found two very true pieces of timber. I got them home and made my hinge stiles. I attacked my hinge stiles to my doors and remaining cladding. I hung the doors and to my dismay I had a huge bow in my left door. It bowed at the center, so I had to tear the door apart and start all over again.
So, I went back to the Home Depot and went through bin number two. I found 4 nice pieces, I wanted two spares just in case. I cut two hinge stiles and let them sit over night. By the next morning, both boards had twisted. Blah-blah-blah.. The remaining spare 2x6's were cut and mounted the same day. The process went smooth...finally.
As for ebay, I had a sniper who took me out when I was bidding on some antique phones. They went for a decent price. Good luck with your vacuum.
The snow is no foreigner to me. We had lake effect snow about a month ago about 6 inches. It has left. Today and yesterday have been about 65 degree F. Nice for November. Last year, it was a complete bizzard. Go figure. It that way around the Great Lakes.
Good luck with your posts. I think your sign boxes are absolutely in genius. I would love to have a set a drawing for those puppies! Nice work!
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #158 on Nov 27, 2006, 6:26am »
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I would love to have a set a drawing for those puppies!
This may sound odd, but while I've made very detailed drawings in CorelDRAW about how I'd like the box to look, when it actually comes to working out how to do things and taking drawings into the basement, I usually wind up doodling on the backs of envelopes or other scraps of paper that are handy.
I suppose what I could do at some point is draw out what I actually did.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #159 on Nov 28, 2006, 11:41pm »
Colin, your build is really really interesting - I admire the ring beam contruction enormously and I'm interested in perhaps doing it myslef on my next (purely hypothetical at this stage) build.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #160 on Nov 29, 2006, 6:45am »
I can hardly believe it, but today I won an eBay auction for a Gast ROA-P101-AA vacuum pump. The unbelievable part is that I got it for $6! If the guy had written a better ad it should have gone for something like $60-$120, but he didn't even spell vacuum correctly. Of course now it looks possible that I might be able to get my hands on some pebbled glass without having to go through the hassle of casting it. I suppose I can always put the vacuum pump back on eBay!
I was out this evening, but I did check on my lumber in the basement. Out of all the boards I bought, one had a slight warp and one had a more severe one, but the rest still looked pretty good (no twisting in any of them!) - I was expecting worse. Hopefully I'll have the energy to play with them tomorrow.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #161 on Nov 29, 2006, 6:10pm »
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I can hardly believe it, but today I won an eBay auction for a Gast ROA-P101-AA vacuum pump. The unbelievable part is that I got it for $6! If the guy had written a better ad it should have gone for something like $60-$120, but he didn't even spell vacuum correctly.
Good news Sorvan! So nice to get an ebay bargain
I sometimes buy reindeer related stuff on ebay but I've found my best bargains when I've searched for 'Raindeer'
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #162 on Nov 29, 2006, 8:23pm »
Today I woke up feeling under the weather so I didn't go to work. I don't have enough energy to haul around large pieces of wood but I decided that I did have enough energy to make a little mock-up of a corner. I find it useful to do this to see what kind of issues I'll have to deal with when I do the actual pieces.
I hadn't thought of it before hand, but depending on how I want to attach the walls (in these pictures represented by the two 2x4s), I can have little shelves in the corners.
TimeGirl, I've heard about raining cats and dogs, but I don't want to think about what it would be like should it raindeer. Of course if you want royal animals you should look for reigndeer (just checked eBay and yes, there are auctions).
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #164 on Dec 1, 2006, 5:25am »
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Hi Colin, hope you are well.
Nice looking ringbeam!
Very similar build method as I intended to use. On the scale model I have (part)made. I made the actual base of it in one piece, purely for strength.
Hi Mark,
Well I've been sick at home for the last two days (hopefully I'll feel better tomorrow), but in general things are going pretty good for me.
The one really big problem if I wanted the ringbeam to be one piece would be the size of the thing. Standard sheets of plywood are 4' wide while my ringbeam is 4' 8" from side to side. Perhaps it's possible to get wider sheets, but I haven't seen them before.
I did spend quite a bit of time thinking about how to attach the pieces of wood together before settling on the wooden pegs and a bunch of screws. One of the things I wondered about are the fasteners they use to combine counter top pieces - if they might be strong enough. (image taken from leevalley.com)
While the counter top connectors weren't overly expensive, I didn't really like the idea of removing that much wood and decided that the wooden dowels would work (and they're cheaper to boot). They actually aren't standard dowels to be honest, they're specially compressed pegs which expand when they come into contact with water based glue. Now that those suckers are in there, they're not coming out.
Today was spectacularly uneventful. I had next to no energy but managed to drag myself out of the house to buy some Battlestar Galactica on DVD so I'd have something new to watch (I previously only had the first season). There was also a lumber yard I wanted to take a quick peak into - and found out that they sell lumber by the board foot! What this translated into is that for the chunk of wood that the fresnel sits on, I didn't have to purchase an 8' length of a 2x12 - I just bought 1' of it.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #165 on Jan 23, 2007, 4:03pm »
How's things Colin? we haven't heard from you for a bit. A Happy New Year? And how is that museum quality (Canadian winter proofed) TARDIS going? Cheers TG
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #166 on Jan 24, 2007, 5:37am »
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How's things Colin? we haven't heard from you for a bit.
Hi Time Girl,
I haven't been working terribly much on my box these days. I bought all the lumber for the corner posts, but found myself needing a second pair of hands to actually do anything with them. I could probably enlist the help of my wife, but she's fairly busy with her studies (she's back in university) and these days I've mostly been in the mood to curl up on the couch when I get home from work (work's been a little crazy). I finally got one of my friends to give me some help last week, so I have started milling them but I'm not done yet.
When Chris came over I started by showing him the sign boxes that I made, and he asked if it would fit up the stairs. I pulled out the tape measure to show him... "See, it's 58 inches across... and the clearance for the stairs is... oops" "So I guess you'll take it apart then." "Nope, it's all glued together..."
After a few minutes however, I realized that I could just disassemble the stairs, and then there'd be lots of room. I put the stairs in, so it's not as if I don't know how to take them apart.
The roof is still sitting outside, but it's got a bit more snow on it - somewhere around 2 1/2 feet (.75 meters). I'm pretty sure that there are rabbits living underneath it - I just hope they're not making too much of a mess. A week and a half ago the temperature got down to -37.6°C, -48°C with the wind chill (-35.7°F & -54°F respectively), so I'm willing to give the bunnies whatever shelter they can find.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #167 on Feb 19, 2007, 12:25am »
Ok, so I've been really bad about getting back to work on my box. I keep giving myself the excuse that it's too cold to pick up more lumber, but frankly there's still wood in my basement that I haven't started cutting into. The big problem, is that at the end of January, I managed to track down a Nintendo Wii - and so I've been spending my free time waving my arms around.
Having finished Zelda, I did get into the basement today and put wood to router. I've now done all the curved corner bits: I had done 4 of the boards when my friend Chris was over, and the last 8 were about what I expected - really difficult. If I had straight wood, this may not have been as much of a problem, but I really had to try to counteract the warped bits of the wood to get the router to cut the correct depth. I'm hoping that when I assemble the corner posts, the warped bits will counteract each other and leave me with something straight(ish).
I've still got some more sawing to do, but it's not as daunting as the routing was. We'll see if I can get away from Wii Tennis long enough to do it.
While I had the camera pulled out, I thought I'd take another picture of the top part of my roof that's sitting outside: It's looked like this for a long time actually, as it's been too cold to snow for the longest time (we did get a dusting on Friday as it's been warming up (it's -10°C now, and forecast to go up to -2°C on Thursday).
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #169 on Feb 28, 2007, 5:10am »
After sawing for most of the evening, I'm finally at the stage where I can start assembling the corner posts. I'm not too happy about it though, since some of the boards are quite warped. I'm hoping that when I attach them together, they'll counteract each other and be somewhat straighter, but I don't know if this is just wishful thinking. I really don't want to have to buy more boards to re-do pieces, but I'm suspecting that I may have to do some of this.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #170 on Mar 1, 2007, 4:50am »
Colin,
I hear you about the warp-age I had a lot of problems with my hinge stiles on my doors. The doors would butt up against the jam at the middle and a wide gap was at both the top and bottom of the doors. I had to redo my doors, ugh!
Wood working is a peculiar thing! I tried everything to draw those pieces in, but in the end, the only thing that worked was a 20 pound sledge hammer
Keep us posted.. Looking forward to your build coming together!
Cheers, Jon
PS - getting a lot of snow in the north? We have had an Arctic winter here just on the south side of Lake Erie. Spring couldn't come sooner.
Much time has passed since I last worked on my build.
I was quite depressed earlier this year when some of my boards seriously warped and while I still in this state, I managed to slip on some ice and fall on my left wrist which kept me from doing any serious lifting for months. Since I couldn't do archery either (one of my passions), I started sewing myself costumes for the medieval recreation group that I belong to. My wrist has gotten better, but having now made two hats, two shirts a pair of pluderhosen and the start of a doublet, I'm still sewing. The sewing urge does seem to be wearing off, and my wife has lately been asking my why I haven't been working on my TARDIS, so today I went into the basement to work on it some more.
Before I injured my wrist, I had taken the most badly warped board (it was bowed about 3" out) and clamped it to one of the beams in my basement. Leaving it there for several months certainly did something as it's now usable. The boards are all a little warped, but nothing too serious. You can see there's a bit of a gap in the middle, but when I actually attach the boards, I'll pull them together.
Today it was the start of gluing and screwing together the rest of the corner posts.
Hopefully I can get the momentum back and maybe finish my box this year.
Welcome back "Sorvan my son" and hi Colin, So sorry to hear of your problems. As you say stitchcraft can be quite theraputic and hopefully your Tardis will benefit from this all the more. It's great to see you posting again Many thanks KB
Great to see you here again Colin!!! I missed seeing the progress with your craftsman’s TARDIS
A local longbowman group have a medieval festival called the Siege of Rye each year. I always admire their pointy toed boots? Do you have a pair? (I might have the wrong century)
Thanks for the welcome back, it's feeling good to get back into this project.
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A local longbowman group have a medieval festival called the Siege of Rye each year. I always admire their pointy toed boots? Do you have a pair? (I might have the wrong century)
I still don't have proper footwear - it's fairly expensive to buy and I haven't yet got around to leatherworking. The group I'm with doesn't recreate any specific time period (it's the Society for Creative Anachronism) so pointy toed boots aren't out of the question.
I clamped up another post today. I've got to use a lot of clamps so that there won't be any gaps, otherwise I could glue them all up at once. Maybe on the weekend I'll pull the ones I've got done outside and give them a coating of epoxy. I bought a bag of "play sand" last year to add texture to the roof, but think it's not fine enough for the walls. I was trying to think of places I could get finer sand from, when it occurred to me that perhaps I should try a company that deals in sandblasting supplies. I'm under the impression that sandblasting uses various particle sizes depending on what they're trying to do. Can anyone else think of places I should try?
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #178 on Aug 20, 2007, 4:27am »
So today was the day that the rest of the roof/ring beam/signs came up out of the basement.
I thought I could get away with taking out a few of the stairs, but when the time came only the bottom three actually stayed in place and I had to remove part of the ceiling as well.
my father putting the stairs back
In other news I was talking to one of my mothers cousins at a family gathering, mentioned that I was looking for fine sand and he said "I've got four bags of silica sand at home, how many do you want?" He said he'll bring me a bag next Sunday when he's in town.
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Re: Sorvan's TARDIS « Reply #179 on Aug 26, 2007, 4:24am »
I started working on my base. I'd been thinking that I wanted a 6" tall base and to get that I'd need some fairly serious pieces of lumber. I was looking at spending a lot of money to pick up some 6x6 pressure treated posts, but thankfully my father thought of something a little less expensive.
Here I'm cutting one of the old 6x8 railway ties with my chainsaw. It really smells like a railroad in my backyard now, but they cost a fraction of what new 6x6 posts would have.
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