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TARDIS Builders :: TARDIS Exterior :: TARDIS Builds :: Deck5's Tardis Page 1 of 3 » Jump to page   Go     Author Topic: Deck5's Tardis (Read 11,631 times) deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Deck5's Tardis « Thread Started on Aug 28, 2009, 5:39am » Small steps, here. Gathering the hard-to-find miscellany first. Here's a piece of window glass -- does it look the part? And tell me, do the bumps face outward or inward, on the box? « Last Edit: Aug 28, 2009, 5:40am by deck5 » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged kiwidoc Administrator member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 417 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Karma: 6,017 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #1 on Aug 28, 2009, 9:11am » Looking good. Bumps face out I believe - i'm absolutely sure of it but not sure why I actually think that. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged The TARDIS Library - http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~trekker/policeboxes pod Castellan member is offline Yes well stand clear because there's no biscuit Joined: Aug 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 228 Location: Frankston, Victoria, Australia Karma: 1,009 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #2 on Aug 29, 2009, 3:01pm » I've always been lead to believe the bumps face in, so they don't gather grime from the outside world. Mine face in, though I've often wondered whether they shouldn't face out. Sorry to confuse the issue!! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged dustyfro Castellan member is offline Build inspired by madness Joined: Apr 2009 Gender: Female Posts: 153 Location: Oregon, USA Karma: 10 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #3 on Aug 29, 2009, 8:53pm » Hey, I just got that book from the library! I didn't bother with glass, I just got sheets of fluorescent lighting plastic, but I've heard everyone here refer to it as pebbled glass, not hammered glass, which would be dented rather than...pebbles. It depends on how picky you are Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Hannah deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #4 on Aug 29, 2009, 9:17pm » Aug 29, 2009, 8:53pm, dustyfro wrote: Hey, I just got that book from the library! I didn't bother with glass, I just got sheets of fluorescent lighting plastic, but I've heard everyone here refer to it as pebbled glass, not hammered glass, which would be dented rather than...pebbles. It depends on how picky you are Happily this sheet has the pebbles. I'll have to cast up some replicas to make all 16 panes. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged atomicgraph Chancellor TR2 Logo Designer 2008 member is offline my other ride is a police box Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 542 Location: a few days from now Karma: 6,158 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #5 on Aug 29, 2009, 11:28pm » casting is a good way to go. especially since the real deal is pretty hard to come by. good luck and take lots of photos of the progress Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Sorvan Castellan Senior Member member is offline "STOP SAWING THE TABLE" Joined: Oct 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 428 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Karma: 150,159 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #6 on Sept 2, 2009, 7:23pm » Aug 28, 2009, 5:39am, deck5 wrote: And tell me, do the bumps face outward or inward, on the box? Going through a bunch of pictures, I see some where the bumps are facing out and some where the bumps are facing in. Personally, I think they should be facing in and that's due to how they're installed. When you're installing window glass, you put some glazing putty in the frame, press the glass into the glazing putty, put in glazing points to keep the glass from coming out, adding more glazing putty and then clean up the excess putty. If you have the bumps facing the outside, you'll have to initially put more glazing putty on the frame and when you press the glass into it, excess glazing putty will be squeezed into the cracks between the bumps. When you try to clean this up, it will be time consuming to get a nice looking line of putty. If you have the bumps facing in, you can easily get the outside line of putty looking straight. On the inside, you don't need the putty to extend even as far as the edge of the frame, so if your line isn't as smooth it won't be as noticeable (and not at all from the outside). Of course what makes the most sense of all, is to just do what looks good to you. Colin Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Scarfwearer Administrator member is offline Joined: Feb 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 175 Location: Somewhere beginning with 'S' Karma: 12 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #7 on Sept 2, 2009, 7:48pm » I think when I visited one of the real police boxes, I saw some panes with the bumps inward, some with the bumps outward. That was most likely a recent unintended change, though, and I dare say Colin is right about standard glazing procedure. For the record, my TARDIS has the bumps outward for decoration, but then it's an indoor box... Crispin Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged chriskingbees Chancellor Senior Member TR Aug 06 member is offline Owner of an old Blue Box... Joined: Mar 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 601 Location: west kent Karma: 1,728 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #8 on Sept 2, 2009, 9:47pm » Crich has a mixture of inward and outward facing pebbles, as has Avoncroft. I thought the inward facing pebbled windows looked "older" ie original, maybe. KB Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #9 on Sept 3, 2009, 3:34am » It's hard not to be pleased about this item I just acquired: Three verticals. 6" wide; the lamp part (excluding the feet below) is almost 6" tall. Thick fresnel glass, slightly yellowed. Heavy! « Last Edit: Sept 3, 2009, 8:10am by deck5 » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged pod Castellan member is offline Yes well stand clear because there's no biscuit Joined: Aug 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 228 Location: Frankston, Victoria, Australia Karma: 1,009 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #10 on Sept 3, 2009, 12:22pm » That is AWESOME! With that original fresnel, which even has a housing that probably won't require much (if any) modding, and that original pebbled glass, you've found the two TARDIS builders' holy grails. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #11 on Sept 3, 2009, 5:06pm » Sept 3, 2009, 12:22pm, pod wrote: That is AWESOME! With that original fresnel, which even has a housing that probably won't require much (if any) modding, and that original pebbled glass, you've found the two TARDIS builders' holy grails. I daresay I may even use the lantern unpainted; I'm not sure I can bring myself to paint over the beautiful patina it has! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #12 on Sept 3, 2009, 5:10pm » Sept 2, 2009, 7:23pm, Sorvan wrote: Of course what makes the most sense of all, is to just do what looks good to you. I appreciate the detailed analysis, Colin! Thank you. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #13 on Sept 3, 2009, 5:12pm » Sept 2, 2009, 9:47pm, chriskingbees wrote: Crich has a mixture of inward and outward facing pebbles, as has Avoncroft. I thought the inward facing pebbled windows looked "older" ie original, maybe. I'm finding it hard to tell, particularly with some of the older pictures, which way the pebbles face. I'll have to see how my castings look from either side, and make a choice from that. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged atomicgraph Chancellor TR2 Logo Designer 2008 member is offline my other ride is a police box Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 542 Location: a few days from now Karma: 6,158 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #14 on Sept 4, 2009, 12:24am » hello deck 5, i casted some of my pebble panels the mould held the detail but over time the glass con-caved a little on the flat side.... don't know if i mixed up the casting resin wrong or if the kind i used is prone to things like that. love the lamp and the housing, they may have used somthing like that on the newbury box but painted white.....(i think). looking forward to your build your off to a great start Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged magepro Time Lord member is offline I'll put the piano here and the couch over there... Joined: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 54 Location: Near Indianapolis Karma: 1 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #15 on Sept 4, 2009, 3:30am » I came really close to using pebbled for the windows, but I wanted to try for more of a hammered look. I found some plastic that uses static electricity and a mild adhesive to cling to glass that created that effect. However, I used plexiglass (plastic) and it didn't stick. The manufacturer didn't make the product anymore and the batch I had didn't have the adhesive. So, I'm experimenting with heating up the plexi and using a ball-hammer to create the effect. I did think about gluing it, but it just doesn't look right. The 'hammered' effect will be done from the back-side like the others have mentioned for the pebbled glass. However, now that it has been brought up, I wonder if the effect would be more pronounced the other way. Typical dust and grime would make it look much older and perhaps more realistic in age /use. Oh, that lamp rocks! Where did you find it? I found a wonderful source for the top lamp. Unfortunately, they don't sell to individuals. It's that outside case you found that comes with it that really blows my mind. Great catch! - Tom « Last Edit: Sept 4, 2009, 3:35am by magepro » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Until next time, remember to, “Simply reverse the polarity of the neutron flow.” ** Tom deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #16 on Sept 4, 2009, 6:08am » Sept 4, 2009, 3:30am, magepro wrote: Oh, that lamp rocks! Where did you find it? I found a wonderful source for the top lamp. Unfortunately, they don't sell to individuals. It's that outside case you found that comes with it that really blows my mind. Great catch! I'm quite pleased with it myself! It came to me via a friend who collects nautical antiques. Not a hobby I have much to do with, save for this one item Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #17 on Sept 4, 2009, 6:11am » Sept 4, 2009, 12:24am, atomicgraph wrote: hello deck 5, i casted some of my pebble panels the mould held the detail but over time the glass con-caved a little on the flat side.... don't know if i mixed up the casting resin wrong or if the kind i used is prone to things like that. love the lamp and the housing, they may have used somthing like that on the newbury box but painted white.....(i think). looking forward to your build your off to a great start Thanks! Hoping my castings don't warp. I may go with a tougher resin for the purpose, or maybe glue the castings to thin plexiglas. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #18 on Sept 4, 2009, 6:31am » Illuminated: Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged DoctorWho8 Lord President member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 918 Location: Bloomington, IL, USA Karma: 1,039 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #19 on Sept 4, 2009, 4:09pm » Ooh pretty... Bill Rudloff Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged pod Castellan member is offline Yes well stand clear because there's no biscuit Joined: Aug 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 228 Location: Frankston, Victoria, Australia Karma: 1,009 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #20 on Sept 4, 2009, 6:35pm » That is a treasure. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged soldierblue Gallifreyan member is offline Joined: Jul 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 20 Karma: 0 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #21 on Sept 5, 2009, 5:05am » Great find Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #22 on Sept 5, 2009, 8:54am » The latest piece of the puzzle: Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged pod Castellan member is offline Yes well stand clear because there's no biscuit Joined: Aug 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 228 Location: Frankston, Victoria, Australia Karma: 1,009 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #23 on Sept 5, 2009, 10:29am » Sept 5, 2009, 8:54am, deck5 wrote: The latest piece of the puzzle: Where on earth did you get that?? Is that an original? I kind of hope that it is, because I had mine made based on an image a member kindly sent me, and it looks exactly like your one, only too clean. But I see yours has old flat-head screws in it ... that's the third of the TARDIS builders holy grails, and if it's an original, I think that must be unprecedented! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #24 on Sept 5, 2009, 10:54am » Sept 5, 2009, 10:29am, pod wrote: Where on earth did you get that?? Is that an original? I kind of hope that it is, because I had mine made based on an image a member kindly sent me, and it looks exactly like your one, only too clean. But I see yours has old flat-head screws in it ... that's the third of the TARDIS builders holy grails, and if it's an original, I think that must be unprecedented! Oh! Sorry, not an original; I thought that was a given. I should have mentioned. I made it this evening, and added the weathering. I haven't actually gone looking for an original; perhaps I should! « Last Edit: Sept 5, 2009, 11:07am by deck5 » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged kiwidoc Administrator member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 417 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Karma: 6,017 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #25 on Sept 5, 2009, 12:37pm » Good replica-ing - made us all wonder! Sept 5, 2009, 10:54am, deck5 wrote: Sept 5, 2009, 10:29am, pod wrote: Where on earth did you get that?? Is that an original? I kind of hope that it is, because I had mine made based on an image a member kindly sent me, and it looks exactly like your one, only too clean. But I see yours has old flat-head screws in it ... that's the third of the TARDIS builders holy grails, and if it's an original, I think that must be unprecedented! Oh! Sorry, not an original; I thought that was a given. I should have mentioned. I made it this evening, and added the weathering. I haven't actually gone looking for an original; perhaps I should! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged The TARDIS Library - http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~trekker/policeboxes pod Castellan member is offline Yes well stand clear because there's no biscuit Joined: Aug 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 228 Location: Frankston, Victoria, Australia Karma: 1,009 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #26 on Sept 5, 2009, 9:12pm » Aug 29, 2009, 3:01pm, pod wrote: I've always been lead to believe the bumps face in, so they don't gather grime from the outside world. Mine face in, though I've often wondered whether they shouldn't face out. Sorry to confuse the issue!! I've since turned them all so they face out. Originally I had them facing inward as per standard glazing procedure, but since reading this thread, gave it a bit more thought, and I do prefer them facing out. Gives it more texture! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #27 on Sept 5, 2009, 10:44pm » Sept 5, 2009, 12:37pm, kiwidoc wrote: Good replica-ing - made us all wonder! Sept 5, 2009, 10:54am, deck5 wrote: Oh! Sorry, not an original; I thought that was a given. I should have mentioned. I made it this evening, and added the weathering. I haven't actually gone looking for an original; perhaps I should! Thanks! I've re-thought the design. Given how simple the Brachaki one was -- I don't think it had any more than the four leaves, and no text -- I think the one I made there is a bit too busy and the graphics a bit too modern and stylized. So I cobbled this up: Fewer words, better lions and unicorns. I'll make a physical version of it soon, see how it looks weathered. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #28 on Sept 6, 2009, 7:55am » Here are the two side-by-side, the simplified version not yet weathered much: Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged deck5 Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 68 Karma: 6 Re: Deck5's Tardis « Reply #29 on Sept 9, 2009, 7:38am » I've got the glass under silicone. For a mould, I'm using a baking pan with a wall of non-drying clay partway along (you can see it at the back of the purple stuff). Crude, but effective. The glass is at the bottom of the pan, fastened down by double-sided foam tape all the way around its perimeter. The silicone I'm using is quite a bit past its use-by date; it was tough to mix and very viscous. I've got my fingers crossed, though. 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