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TARDIS Builders :: TARDIS Interior :: Console Reference :: David's New Series Console Page 1 of 2 » Jump to page   Go     Author Topic: David's New Series Console (Read 4,491 times) davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 David's New Series Console « Thread Started on Oct 11, 2005, 11:36am » Hi, I have finally begun to preproduction of a TARDIS console. A complete remake. Based on the dimensions and overal structure of the original Hartnell console, but making it look similar in style to the now-Blackpool console. Here is an idea I had for an LCD scanner arrangement; The monitor is meant to be on a metal support and can rotate 360 (that's what the arrow is meant to show but its not very good - was late at the time of drawing) And here is a diagram on the first thing I will be starting on, the up n down mechanism; Here is the famous arrangement for everyone's central column it seems, with counterweights! Mine will be have four counterweights, each guided by plastic tubing (i'm going to assume it helps). This will be on wheels so I can wheel it out of the whole console, which will split apart for easy access. At the moment I am tracing a cheap central column and a motor to begin working on. David. « Last Edit: Feb 4, 2010, 2:21pm by davidnagel » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org Scarfwearer Administrator member is offline Joined: Feb 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 175 Location: Somewhere beginning with 'S' Karma: 12 Re: David's Console « Reply #1 on Oct 11, 2005, 5:39pm » This looks pretty similar to what I did (though I used belts, and they're slipping). You'll need something to keep the column level - you don't want the sides of the cover scraping on the collar around the top as it will scratch, or tip sideways and jam. I sat the moving parts on a pole which rides up and down through holes in cross members. Perhaps you are planning this and just left it out of the drawing. Here's a diagram from my website: from the page about this Looking forward to seeing how you get on. Crispin Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #2 on Oct 12, 2005, 8:34am » Oh yes! I completely forgot about your diagram there, Crispin! Um, I was thinking either to have the gaps between column and piping quite tight to allow it to do so, and then simply add some foam around it so it doesn't scratch. Or do as you say and create a guide... again with probably an amount of foam! D Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #3 on May 31, 2006, 8:27pm » A minor update, I have been thinking about the whole console thing and since watching this new-new series of "Doctor Who" with David Tennant - I am nearing the possibility of making a new series TARDIS console... but I cannot make my mind up! Maybe we should run a poll... Anyways, went to Blackpool today and asked to see the upNdown mechanism for the old Longleat console and here it is; Its useful, but it makes me question, have they counter-weighted the column? or is the mechanism doing all the hard work on its own? I am still looking over where to find a big plastic cylinder for the central column for next to nothing, one fears it won't come cheaply - many thanks to Purple and Crispin for input. BTW Blackpool Exhibition is superb for the old fan like myself, but next to useless for new fans, ala the annoying kids who were in the cue with us, ruined the experience for me and the wife, but nevermind! David. « Last Edit: May 8, 2008, 2:14pm by davidnagel » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #4 on Jun 24, 2006, 2:21pm » So what do people think? Is this column counter-weighted? Or does this motor take the full load? And is it worth investing in a wiper motor to give this a go? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org purpleblancmange Guest Re: David's Console « Reply #5 on Jun 24, 2006, 2:46pm » I don't know about the Blackpool one, but adding in counterweights can't hurt the process, I've seen a couple of mechanisms that work very well without them, so I guess it depends on the motor that you have. Have a look at Jarrod's TARDIS console. His mechanism is near identical to the original prop's innards which coincidentally was built for the season 19 console, then transferred into the new model the next season. How goes it with the rest of this project, any further design work done or have you in deed started the main build yet? I take it you'll be using it in another of your films. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #6 on Jun 28, 2006, 5:59pm » Yes, the finished console will be used in a film or two. Fingers crossed I have the time and energy to produce a short 6 story season. The build has yet to start unfortunately, we've just been through a house-buying phrase but unfortunately we didn't manage it... so I guess money is better spent on a holiday OR a tardis! I assume any wiper motor will do, I've read up on a site that uses one for Halloween projects and the chap explains that it can be powered via a computer power supply. I'll have to do some investigating... hmm... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #7 on Nov 16, 2007, 11:27am » Hmmm. Another of my temporarily abandoned projects. Any progress on this suspended project will be posted here and on my new blog www.damproductions.org/blog Life has been busy, got married, moved house a few times, crashed the car, got a new one, blah blah blah Hope everyone is well! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org Admin account Administrator member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 1,188 Karma: 0 Re: David's Console « Reply #8 on Nov 16, 2007, 3:31pm » Congratulations! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #9 on Jan 1, 2008, 7:16pm » Many belated thanks and belated Christmas and New Year! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #10 on Jan 1, 2008, 7:19pm » I had been thinking about construction of a new series console and cropped up several ideas... The console coral arms would be constructed out of chicken wire or mesh of somekind and then covered in cardboard or paper mache to create an uneven surface then artexed to create a coral type texture and painted. Not entirely sure how to make the pill shaked circular stacks on top, maybe cutting the bottoms out of some very big balls! Oh dear. Rest of the console is fair construction. The problem most console builds crop up is the whole central column issue. I got a 500 quid quote from somewhere at 500mm by 1000mm but I don't have that money realistically to spend it on that bit of the console, alternatively, the way the new series console column looks rough, it might be worth going down the bending sheet plastic route....? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org Scarfwearer Administrator member is offline Joined: Feb 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 175 Location: Somewhere beginning with 'S' Karma: 12 Re: David's Console « Reply #11 on Jan 1, 2008, 10:12pm » Quote: I had been thinking about construction of a new series console and cropped up several ideas... The console coral arms would be constructed out of chicken wire or mesh of somekind and then covered in cardboard or paper mache to create an uneven surface then artexed to create a coral type texture and painted. Not entirely sure how to make the pill shaked circular stacks on top, maybe cutting the bottoms out of some very big balls! Oh dear. I would guess that most of the weird shapes were done with fibreglass. The pill-shaped things could probably be made much like a dalek dome. Crispin Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #12 on Jan 13, 2008, 3:03pm » I'd imagine so, Crispin. But I'm sure there is a picture I've found showing the 'pills' on their own and they look like carved wood, maybe... ? though I could be completely wrong and the join like lines in the picture below could be the fibreglass joins. « Last Edit: Feb 4, 2010, 2:21pm by davidnagel » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org archie Time Lord Stunning model builder! member is offline Too many things to make, not enough TIME, I'll have to build a TARDIS... Joined: Aug 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 59 Location: Sunny Woking, Surrey, UK Karma: 507 Re: David's Console « Reply #13 on Jan 13, 2008, 11:08pm » Looks like carved/turned urethane foam to me, covered in something like jesmanite or resin. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged "To Do is to Be"- Sartre "To Be is to Do"- Kant "Do Be Do Be Do"- Sinatra davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #14 on Feb 20, 2008, 9:21pm » Hmm. Could be archie - could be. Anyways, I've had some ideas about general construction of the console (by the way, there is a nice picture of the interior as seen in the latest issue of Doctor Who Adventures which I shall be using as reference now!) I was originally going to construct the six console arms out of chicken wire but now find it might be stronger if I constructed out of flat panelled wood and then did my artex idea on top of that... It looks quite an easy job to find big corrugated tubing to use as the insides for the bottom of the console - though saying that , it was hard enough trying to find the short piece of tubing I ended up using for my K9 neck. Sheesh! I wonder if there are any vaccuum cleaner shops where I live... INVESTIGATE! This is all still on going mind. Also been tempted to make half coral buttresses out of wood with the artex thing. ya know, cut it off at top of the screen point and if I ever use a big long shot in a fan film I will add in the rest later..... hmmmmmm ~D Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's Console « Reply #15 on Apr 1, 2008, 8:22pm » Hmm consoles...I wonder if making the shape as per previous consoles is a good idea, fashion it up like the new series console, and THEN add the big coral arms on top of that... that could work, maybe making the coral arms seperate for transportation/storage. BTW I'm looking at fan film possibilities for such a build rather than 'centre piece' possibilities that most here go for. Hmmm... consoles.... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #16 on May 5, 2008, 1:11pm » Right, well after much deliberation about this project, I have decided to construct a new series console. And have discussed its construction with Sir Purple and am currently producing schematics from pictures and a single measurement Sir P has given me, whether it looks any good when I'm done is another question. So, I fired up Paintshop Pro and started vectoring on some construction pictures of the REAL console, so I can get the ribs/arms right for a ply wood template, here tis progress for those would are doing something similar; I'll probably blow this image up to transfer to wood. « Last Edit: Feb 4, 2010, 2:25pm by davidnagel » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org exilea Castellan TARDIS Toolkit Guardian: Call this man if your TARDIS breaks down... member is offline The toolkit is DONE Joined: Mar 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 480 Location: Ham Erica Karma: 3,033 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #17 on May 5, 2008, 2:21pm » Oooh, can't wait to see this one done! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged karsthotep Time Lord member is offline Joined: Mar 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 60 Location: Vermont Karma: 6 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #18 on May 5, 2008, 6:47pm » Wow, I have never seen those pictures before, great Reference. I look forward to seeing your progress on this. Karst Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged anotherwheeze Time Lord member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 56 Karma: 9 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #19 on May 5, 2008, 8:12pm » May 31, 2006, 8:27pm, davidnagel wrote: I am still looking over where to find a big plastic cylinder for the central column for next to nothing, one fears it won't come cheaply - many thanks to Purple and Crispin for input. David. Hi there, Just a thought, but what about the clear acrylic drums from an old drum scanner. These were used in the pre-press industry until some years ago. Many are now defunct. Try Googling "crossfield" or "linotype hell" drums. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Rassilons Rod Administrator member is offline I'm now half way to 70 :D Joined: Sept 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 1,366 Location: Endor :) Finland Karma: 171 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #20 on May 5, 2008, 8:53pm » May 5, 2008, 6:47pm, karsthotep wrote: Wow, I have never seen those pictures before, great Reference. I look forward to seeing your progress on this. Karst Yes those join lines are interesting in the first pic... I wouldn't have thought of that had I not seen the pics -Marc Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Find us here: Facebook - YouTube - Mikseri - [url=http://www.myspace.com/aeonantenna]My atomicgraph Chancellor TR2 Logo Designer 2008 member is offline my other ride is a police box Joined: May 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 542 Location: a few days from now Karma: 6,158 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #21 on May 6, 2008, 12:23am » wow!!! that is gonna be a great project and its looking good. maybe i miss read something but what did you make that out of? best of luck to you Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged meantimebob Castellan member is offline Joined: Sept 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 192 Location: London Karma: 1,153 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #22 on May 6, 2008, 12:56am » I wonder how they made that? Is it a timber framework covered over with a hell of a lot of filler? Or are they fibreglass pieces joined at the top? Also, I can't work out what happens on that first bend on the way up, what's going on there? Good luck with that build - its certainly ambitious but the gubbings shouldnt be too hard to add. Its not the most pristine of finishes. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #23 on May 6, 2008, 2:03pm » thanks for your encouragement people, funny how changing the thread name attracted more replies atomicgraph, the images aren't mine, they are the images from the old version of the BBC website of the construction of the real thing. if you do some searching you might find them, i saved them all so if its helpful i can send all of them...somewhere meantimebob, first bend? the first bend legs represent the console touching REAL floor since the console room is mounted on levels, this is demonstrated in the episodes namely Eccleston in a hole in the floor of 'The Unquiet Dead' and Tennant in 'Rise of the Cybermen' when he retrieves the little TARDIS ring thing. I'll grab a picture that shows these levels and share here. And no, the console bits aren't my worry, the central column is manly, so thanks for the suggestion anotherwheeze, I will investigate those. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org mugsyuk Time Lord member is offline Joined: Aug 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 62 Karma: 22 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #24 on May 6, 2008, 8:29pm » The supports to the console are just timber supports with a controlled amount of expanding filler sprayed over them and then carefully sprayed with either a spray resin or varnish. The actual room supports are very similar but are metal framework with "cling film" wrapped round the frame work and then covered with the expanding foam. If that helps Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged anotherwheeze Time Lord member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 56 Karma: 9 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #25 on May 6, 2008, 9:08pm » May 6, 2008, 2:03pm, davidnagel wrote: And no, the console bits aren't my worry, the central column is manly, so thanks for the suggestion anotherwheeze, I will investigate those. In case you hadn't guessed, I was in this industry until about 12 years ago All flatbed stuff nowadays - these big drum scanners were sometimes hundreds of thousands of pounds, normally with a number of different drums. The company I worked for refurbished (polished) these drums, amongst other things. What you want is a crazed drum. This occurs if the operator uses the incorrect cleaner to remove the material used to mount transparencies or photos. This renders the drum useless, fit simply for the skip, but to the naked eye, they look ok, but are useless for scanning anything. This, I'm sure will be one of your options for a cheap, if not "free" acrylic drum Oh, and they come in so many different sizes - some seriously large and perfect for a console. Good luck Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #26 on May 6, 2008, 9:19pm » Ok cheers anotherwheeze mugsyuk, you are correct, the ribs/arms were constructed out of ply and the curveyness covered in Bendy MDF (I hear;)) and then smothered in "texture spray" Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #27 on Dec 22, 2008, 3:17pm » Ok, a nice little update for my thread on this build, that doesn't look like its going anywhere because 1) I don't have the money 2) I don't have the building space 3) I don't have the storage and 4) I don't have ALOT of time but I will still collect pictures and things in hopes of sparking myself and fortunately this set of images came through, thanks to trizia of photobucket (who attended the Children in Need visit to the Doctor Who/Torchwood/SJA sets) of which I have sneekily stolen them (but I don't feel too bad because I made my donation!) [EDIT] New Images coming soon « Last Edit: Feb 4, 2010, 2:30pm by davidnagel » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #28 on Dec 22, 2008, 3:20pm » And finally.... [EDIT] New Images coming soon Hope these helps others - because they certainly help me in replcating the thing and I know they'll be excellent for Aaron and his thread (but I'll neglect to them there in case of clogging up the threads etc) « Last Edit: Feb 4, 2010, 2:30pm by davidnagel » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org davidnagel Castellan member is offline Joined: Apr 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 158 Location: Bedford Karma: 3 Re: David's New Series Console « Reply #29 on Dec 22, 2008, 3:34pm » These pictures continue my belief that the prop is just a big mess on occassion, starting to think I should have a system and smarter-looking replica Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Thanks, David DAM Productions www.damproductions.org Page 1 of 2 » Jump to page   Go     Forum Jump--------------------» Home--------------------» General--------------------- About the Forum- About the Members- General TARDIS Discussion- General Off Topic Conversation- The Police Public Call Box- Fan Films- Props from the Shops- Links--------------------» Advice and Assistance--------------------- Plans- Tutorials- Lumber/Timber/Wood choices- The Lamp- The Roof- The Top Signs- The Windows- Glass- Panels- Door and Door Sign- The Phone- Handles and Locks- Walls, Posts and Assembly- Base- Paint, Texturing and Dirt Washes- Weatherproofing- TARDIS Sound Effects--------------------» TARDIS Exterior--------------------- TARDIS Reference --- Film and Stage TARDIS Reference- TARDIS Workshop- TARDIS Builds- TARDIS Virtual and Model Builds- TARDIS Gallery--------------------» TARDIS Interior--------------------- Console Reference- Console Workshop- Console Builds- Console Virtual and Model Builds- Console Gallery--------------------» Other Props--------------------- Other Prop Reference- Other Prop Workshop- K9 Builds- Cyberman Builds- Sonic Screwdriver/Toolkit Builds- Dalek Builds- Costume Making- Other Prop Builds- Other Prop Gallery--------------------» The Archives--------------------- The TARDIS Builder's Guild Archive- The TARDIS Rebuilders 1 Archive