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Apologies if this is already widely known but its something I only discovered for myself today and thought others on here might be interested.
For some odd reason, I've always really liked that wooden chair which used to be in the console room. It was first seen in the Unearthly Child at the far right of this photo
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and continued to make appearances in the programme...
![[image]](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/meantimebob/st--2z81.jpg) (a shillpages screen cap)
right up until season 14, where it looked as though it had finally been moved back to the room where it rightfully belonged...
![[image]](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/meantimebob/secondary-control-room.jpg)
Isn't it a lovely bit of design? I often wondered if it was just a stock piece of prop furniture from the BBC store or if it had been especially designed and constructed for the programme (unlikely I guess). And then, today, I came across this...
![[image]](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/meantimebob/knossosthroneroom.jpg) the throne room of King Minos on Crete and just take a look at his throne!
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Now isn't that interesting? And here's a wooden replica as well.
![[image]](http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/meantimebob/Knossos3.jpg) So, what I would like to ask those of you who know far more about these things than I do, is: is this widely known? Were these copies readily available in furniture shops nearly 50 years ago and if so, where could I lay my eager hands (or bottom) on one? And lastly, does that finally prove the Doctor wasn't merely being glib when he talked about that ball of string Romana found in the hold?
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Fascinating... I'd often wondered about that chair and even briefly considered trying to make one. Now you've found out what it is, there's some hope of finding one: I've no idea if it is/was a popular reproduction or not, but since it's a copy of something reasonably iconic there's a good chance that there are quite a few in the wild. Nice find!
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wow - well spotted Meantime!! That's an almost impossible bit of research...!
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It was pure serendipity. I was in a market yesterday, looking at a book stall, leafing through a tome on archaeology and there it was. I was more excited than a grown man has a right to be over such things.
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LOL! It's a brilliant find. Now - if we can just use the same method to find some of the lost episodes....
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notice that the prop version has the half moon detail under the legs which is present on original yet missing from the replica
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Look carefully at the wooden replica. You can see where the wooden moon design between the front legs is just broken off. That chair did have it originally. I wonder if Ebay might have one.
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I have to wonder if it was always the same chair, or if the bbc started out with a set of 8 all those decades ago.
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If anyone has any caps, I've also seen it recently, rewatcthing season 15...
Leela "We haven't been in here before..." Doctor "YOU haven't been in here before"
The only screencaps I can find don't show the chair but they do show another piece of furniture from Season 14's wooden console room...
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One of the arms falls off that hatstand when the TARDIS takes a tumble in the vortex (if you look carefully, you can see some string pulling it over!!)
Anywho, back to the chair... If anyone has any *cough* digital versions of season 15, some caps could nice to see 
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Quote:Anywho, back to the chair... If anyone has any *cough* digital versions of season 15, some caps could nice to see 
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How about instead some more screencaps of Leela looking saucy? 
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Quote: Quote:Anywho, back to the chair... If anyone has any *cough* digital versions of season 15, some caps could nice to see 
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How about instead some more screencaps of Leela looking saucy? 
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Oh Tom! Thats FAR too easy... that would basically be ANY pic of Leela
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Zeb, dude... thats not the same hatstand from the wooden console room...
Nice quality grabs though 
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After seeing this, I did some googling, and found this copy of the knossos chair:
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"Wooden copy of stone throne from Knossos, made to stand in the hall at Evans' house at Oxford. Courtesy of the Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford"
http://crete.classics.ox.ac.uk/U3S1/U3S1L2.html
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Curiouser and curiouser. Inspired by this successful googling, I've found that there's also one at the International Court of Justice in the Hague.
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terrific research, guys. Now if anyone is in oxford and could go measure that chair if possible - that'd be great. I wonder how difficult it would be to make one? Or maybe get a chippie to put one together. Its a lovely piece of furniture.
As for Davison's hatstand - why is it bent?
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Probably warped in storage? Bill "the Doctor" Rudloff
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Those kinds of hatstands are often several bits bolted together by threaded rods. Its easy for the rods to bend, or not to be screwed together properly...
Or the other answer is, this is Doctor Who... lots of the props got bent, quite often! See Tom and the Sonic Screwdriver... 
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This is another chair from the TARDIS, this one is from the sleeping quarters as seen in The Edge of Destruction.
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After hunting around a bit I think it was made by the 1950’s Swedish designers Dahlens Dalum
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I really like the chair and I’ve been checking ebay – I nearly found one here item number: 270353420577 The right design but with a different back
The same chair was seen in the Silver Carrier spaceship in The Wheel in Space , in fact two of them. If I didn’t believe in the ability to travel in time and space, this might have worried me.
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A preference for modernist Swedish design must have been universewide!
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TG, I did check that out, boy very close, only if the back rest had metal spindles running vertically that be the ticket... You might be able to get a metal fabricator to spot weld on some metal spindles if it's a 'must have' sort of thing... Nice find though!
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Two more similar but distinct chairs, sort of medieval I guess.
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And then there's the sinking down looks-like-it-was-taken-from-the-back-of-a-minivan seat from the new series.
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...and the one that I'm particularly interested in - the studded one with the tassles. (That sounded a bit odd - not because it has studs and tassles, you understand...)
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Here behind Ian as he does his best Tony Hart impression. This one would be pretty easy to make...
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"Tony Hart impression"
I've always thought that too!
Sorry, slightly off topic, but what is that Ian is holding? Looks slightly theodolitish!
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Naval sextant (I think?)
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Well yet another long reaching thread that I decided to have a go at. The OP had mentioned the Minos Throne Chair. Well I rather liked the looks of it too so I thought i would see what could be made of it.
TARDIS Chair - Minos Throne Blueprints - Rev A
Sadly I think I sort of got it terribly wrong. Those ancient designers really liked the odd ball curves and ellipses. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was using the shadow of the sun against a mountain outcropping to make this one.
Either way its serviceable enough I think for someone to use as a stepping stone of sorts.
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