Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 13, 2008 1:50:52 GMT 1
Well... I've finally decided to bite the bullet and move from 3D polygons to wood. It's not really practical to build a full-sized version unfortunately (maybe one day) so I've decided to build an approximately 1/6th scale model as this seems to be about the best size for keeping CDs in
It's going to be an early-seventies Brachacki box, pretty much like the one I made in Sketchup...
although I'm not sure whether to go with the lighter blue look or the darker blue from the early Pertwee/Troughton days.
I'm currently doing ANOTHER Sketchup model, but this time in terms of individual bits of wood to check the actual construction design. Then I'll be ordering the wood cut to spec from a modelling website.
I'm still thinking how to handle the doors. Obviously I want them to open inwards like on the prop, but also for practical purposes of being able to use it for storage, I'd also like them to be able to open outwards. I'm currently thinking the doors could be "hinged" with a small piece of dowelling into the base, allowing them to swing all ways, rather than using proper hinges.
Also... it's probably a bit early to start this thread seeing as I haven't even ordered the wood or finished the plans yet, but I thought that starting this thread now might spur me on
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 14, 2008 14:58:10 GMT 1
Well my plan for the doors is to have them hinged on a stub of dowelling at the top and the bottom of the door, with a corresponding hole in the base and the woodblock above the doorway. The hinge-sides of the doors will be backed with half-round dowel (or maybe just sanded round) so that they can open inwards without bumping into the corner posts. Hopefully that makes sense; if not maybe the following (less pretty, but functional) Sketchup pictures will illustrate what I mean.
If anyone can spot any glaringly obvious problems with this plan it would be a great help to hear it at this stage
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 14, 2008 15:31:34 GMT 1
Actually I've already realised that, as the holes are positioned now, that won't actually allow the doors to open outwards, which was the whole point! Not sure what I was thinking there.
If I'm going to do it this way I'll have to move the holes across so that the edge of the hole, rather than the centre, is parallel to the corner post. This would mean that the curved part of the door will be visible even when the doors are closed. This might not be too bad, but I'd have to make the corner posts go back a little further into the box to avoid a visible gap
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 14, 2008 16:49:32 GMT 1
Okay well here is the amended plan with hole moved across slightly and an extra piece of wood put in to cover the visible gap...
When the (now also slightly smaller) door goes in place it now leaves a little rounded edge still visible...
But this isn't as noticeable as I'd thought and allows the door to swing both ways. As it were. I can't really think of any better way to achieve this, especially not on this scale (that dowel hole will be 3mm across).
Did you get the idea from the Dapol TARDIS? If not, then you have the same door structure as it does. Now, what about the door stopping pins at the top of the door frame, are you leaving those off since the doors will be bi-directional? Looking pretty sweet so far. Bill Rudloff
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 14, 2008 18:53:32 GMT 1
No I didn't get the idea from the Dapol TARDIS (unless it was sbliminally), I just couldn't really think of any other simple way to have the doors opening both ways. I'd thought of some complicated method involving the doors being hinged to an extra thin piece of wood, which was itself hinged the opposite way to the door post, but I never really liked that idea and certainly wouldn't want to do it on this scale.
As for the door stops... well I want to have these on because I really like the look. But they're going to have to be removable in some way. Perhaps they could have pins/nails glued to the rear side to allow them to be slid in and out of the steps above the doors.
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 16, 2008 18:23:59 GMT 1
Not particularly exciting, but I managed to find some strips of wood in B&Q that pretty much matched my design for parts of the corner post (they're 1mm out, which may not be a problem or may need sanding/planing later). So I now have some corner post bits...
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 17, 2008 17:52:11 GMT 1
Made a start on the walls and doors today. These are made from some hardboard that was lying around and is the right thickness, hopefully that will be suitable. If not I may have to make them again later out of hardwood. Just got as far as cutting out the basic shapes and marking on the panel areas to be cut out. Not much to look at yet, but here they are (along with a cat for scale).
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 20, 2008 18:54:02 GMT 1
I've made a start on cutting out the wall panels today. It's fiddly and the cuts aren't perfect, some filing down will be required. I'm not sure if cutting panels out of a solid piece was the way to go with the walls, maybe I should have built them up from smaller pieces as I originally planned.
Anyway, still 28 more panels to go, but it's JUST beginning to look a bit less like a pile of wood and a bit more like a TARDIS.
Post by chriskingbees on Jun 20, 2008 21:38:22 GMT 1
Hi Z Good work so far ol' son There's a lot to be said for both methods of creating the panel inserts. I think your way is probably neater in the long run, but, on a full size build, there is much less wastage in stiles and uprights. Looking forward to your completed model and btw, what's the beautiful cat's name? Cheers KB
Post by lorisarvendu on Jun 20, 2008 22:21:29 GMT 1
Cat for scale, eh? Ah but how big's the cat?
I don't think you can go wrong with a couple of rough bits on a model. It sort of adds to the battered charm. Plenty of wobbly sections on my two models. Just shows they were hand-made with love and dedication. If I'd wanted something with perfect straight edges, I'd have just bought a Flight-Control TARDIS.
Well, I bought one anyway, but that's beside the point!
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 21, 2008 20:09:41 GMT 1
The cat is called Frankenstein, or Franky for short
Anyway, I finished cutting the panels out of one of the walls today. I didn't quite get round to filing it all down though so it's still a bit messy. Hopefully it will look more even after I file it tomorrow (hopefully).
Post by zbignievhamson on Jun 23, 2008 12:44:51 GMT 1
It's filed down and has the backing piece glued on now. Not perfect, but looks pretty good (there's one place where the drill went over the line which I will fill with something before I paint it). Only another 3 sides to do now
I might as well ask now if anyone here might know where to get door handles (and possibly even a Yale-like lock) that would look about right for a 1:6 scale model?
I used copper wire from a piece of aerial coaxial wire, bent into shape. For the yale lock I used a small piece of plastic tubing with "bronze" silver foil over the end. My model is 1/12th scale, but you might be able to do something similar (maybe with some 15Amp ring main cable).
Post by zbignievhamson on Jul 4, 2008 18:33:54 GMT 1
I hadn't quite finished that part then, but I have now. The final door is glueing as I type this. Yes it IS tedious and I'm very glad that part is over and I can get on with something else now.
Here's a few more "mock up" pics, this time with the corner posts. It's all held together just with blutack for the purpose of the pictures, and it doesn't really represent the final idea because I don't even have all the corner post pieces yet, but it's as close as I can get for now and I couldn't resist
Post by zbignievhamson on Jul 12, 2008 16:36:55 GMT 1
Well progress is quite slow at the moment, mainly because I am glueing the corner posts together and each bit I glue has to be left in clamps overnight to set, so I am doing about 5 minutes of actual work each day. So below you can see a post in clamps, a finished corner posts, and some protoype step details...
Post by zbignievhamson on Jul 19, 2008 16:11:03 GMT 1
Progress is still slow, but I think I'm getting towards the stage where I can actually put the walls and corner posts all together onto a base and have something resembling a TARDIS, rather than just the myriad bits of wood I have at the moment.
Post by zbignievhamson on Jul 24, 2008 16:33:06 GMT 1
If anyone could give me an idea where to get the quarter-round beading for the corner posts I'd be eternally grateful. It needs to be 3mm really (or 1/8 inch in imperial, which is about 3.2mm). I've found a few dolls house websites in the US that sell it, but nothing over here so far.