Again, very classy to my eyes. There's a whole lot of detail in there and I love the in-line on the cross. Look at the hi-res image of the 1892 "Hygiene" pic and you'll see what I mean, noting that the original is only an inch-and-a-half or so across!
If you reduce the "beasts" in size compared to the cross, they're also close to those on the Cushing sign. In fact, this artwork for the animals appears to be the foundation for a whole succession of art that is very similar, and which were used on secondary publications and some plaques right up through the 1970's.
I'll post more on that later, including an image of one of said plaques (with Ironageman's permission).
Last Edit: Jul 28, 2006 18:02:08 GMT 1 by HB88Banzai
Here's the Earls court box in an old picture that I pinched from somewhere... with a St John car badge on the door.
I imagine that the car badge is the most recently made St John enamel sign? - as the new circular St John signs seem all to be vinyl.
Actually, I believe the "badge" on the Earl's Court box wasn't a car badge at all, but rather a relatively recent version of the old enamel plaques used for First Aid stations (and Police Boxes). That attached bulge at the bottom is a tag that says "First Aid" - you can just make it out in some pictures. Also, I saw one EXACTLY like it on eBay a couple years back, and it was definitely a First Aid plaque, not like the car badges (unfortunately, it went for quite a bit more than I could afford). What car badges I've seen on eBay have an octagonal outline rather than circular, with "St. John" on the bottom tag area rather than any wording around the outside edges, and are also quite a bit smaller than the one on the Earl's Court box. I'll see if I can find pictures of both.
As to the image on the plaque, from what I could tell in the eBay photos, it was from the same line of older versions of the logo's animals as you show above, rather than the post 1960's standard logo that now appears on the vinyl stickers and most all St. John publications, supplies, and other items.
This older style logo (essentially like the version you show above, with minor differences), per my research, is also the most probable form of the animals for both original Police Boxes and for Cushing's TARDIS, though they were smaller in proportion to the cross than the above image, especially on Cushing's box. This style of animal dates to at least the early 20's based on what material I've been able to acquire, and was used with only minor variations up until the mid-70's on multiple publications and equipment, though oddly enough NOT on "First Aid to the Injured" until after it became simply "First Aid" in the late 50's.
BTW - nice pic, ironageman! Is it from an actual car badge or plaque, or is it a composite?
Last Edit: Nov 8, 2006 14:46:22 GMT 1 by HB88Banzai
Post by littlekentucky on Nov 25, 2008 17:58:09 GMT 1
These posts are very helpful. What would you all suggest this sign be made of? I plan on getting quotes from a local sign shop in the next month or so and would like to have my 'ducks' in a row so to speak.